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Kid's do not even need drugs to kill themselves with these days. They also play the blackout game by choking themselves. Kids are going to do what kids are going to do. You can talk to them all you want and you can punish them all you want, you can be the upright moral hitching post and still have a kid that goes off the edge. You can keep their little hands busy with controlled activities but the day will come when they will move out on their own and do what they are going to do. I'm with GayinOh8 I'd be finding out whats going on in my kids head. The only way to do that is to talk to them openly and honestly without them having fear of talking to you openly and honestly about their lives. At least a thrid of people in prison and state hospitals come from loving homes with parents who did do all they could do. Reality is, some kids are just going to take to that life style no matter what you say or do to help them over come their urges to do crazy things.
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