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Illegal Immigrants Are Here To Stay
Topics: Bakersfield, Bakotopia, Bakotopia.com
Posted by likhy2 Thu Sep 21, 2006 18:12:06 PDT
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Now that the smoke has cleared after the numerous 'batallas' for a just immigration law, we have succeeded. 

Our voices did not go unheard.The battle has been won.

However, this is just the beginning. We still have many obstacles to overcome before the war is over.

The same governor who a few semesters ago refused to grant illegals the privelege of recieving driver's licenses, has changed his 'cancion'.

We had many interesting conversations on Bakotopia and on nlbelardes.com with individuals on both sides of the issue (Dusty, Chase, Matt, the Dobblers, NL, The Regulators, y mas).

I'd like to hear from those of you who thought we were wasting our time with the rallies and protest marches.

What do you have to say? Did our elected leaders let you down? Is this country on its way to social and economic ruin? 

We must "keep our eye on the prize." It is too early to proclaim victory at this time.

But make no mistake my friend, illegal immigrants will be granted their "inalienable rights".

"Habre la puerta ke llega el immigrante. Ha llegado sin dinero y no trai papel." ...Ska-P

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Comment From: Chase

I never thought the protests were a waste of time, I just think that most people dont understand anything (both sides of the fence). Unfortunately the kind of thinking that plagues this nation is going to drive us to a very crippling state sometime down the line. I'm not talking about the point of views specifically, but how we all get from point A to point R. I apologize, I've been in a very cynical mood toward our society as of late. Comment From: twinkie

I thougth it was a "waste of time" in the beginning. I didn't understand what the purpose was. But I saw very quickly when the vote was halted that people CAN make a difference. Comment From: likhy2

INTERESANTE! I JUST FINISHED WATCHING A SEGMENT ON SOME NEWS CABLE BROADCAST ON THE IDEA THAT IMMIGRANTS "MUST" LEARN ENGLISH IN ORDER TO ASSIMILATE FULLY INTO THE U.S. STILL OTHERS WERE PUSHING FOR AN "ENGLISH ONLY" LAW. I HAVE BEEN DOING RESEARCH OF THIS TOPIC. I HAVE ALSO BEGAN TO READ ON THE ISSUE OF "RACE" IN THE U.S. MR. CHASE, I HAVE YOU TO THANK FOR MOTIVATING ME TO LOOK DEEPER INTO THIS ISSUE. I HAVE TO SAY I AM LEARNING A LOT ON THE SUBJECT. IT IS MORE OF A SOCIOLOGICAL PHENOMENON. OUT OF MY FIELD, STIIL VERY INTERESTING. WHEN ALL IS SAID & DONE, HOWEVER, SOCIOLOGY BEGINS WHERE HISOTRY ENDS. I'LL HAVE MORE IDEAS TO CONTRIBUTE AS SOON AS I AM DONE READING BOTH OF THESE BOOKS("HARVEST OF EMPIRE" by Juan Gonzales and "CHANGING RACE" by Clara E. Rodriguez). MY PRELIMINARY THESIS: 1) IMMIGRANTS SHOULD LEARN TO SPEAK "ENGLISH" AND LEARN THIS COUNTRY'S HISTORY. HOWEVER, AN IMMIGRANT CAN LIVE A PRODUCTIVE LIFE IN THIS COUNTRY WITHOUT EVER SPEAKING A WORD OF ENGLISH. 2) THE "ENGLISH ONLY" IDEA IS A FAR FETCHED DREAM! THE U.S. ONCE ATTEMPTED TO IMPLEMENT THIS LAW ON PUERTO RICO (THEY ARE AFTERALL, "U.S. CITIZENS WITHOUT VOTING RIGHTS, RIGHT?). IT WAS A DOOMED IDEA THAT FELL FLAT ON ITS' FACE. WHERE THEY ALSO PLANNING ON BANNING "TELEMUNDO", "LA OPINION", "TEVE-NOVELAS", "SHAKIRA", CLOSING DOWN ALL THE CHINA TOWNS??? I COULD GO ON AND ON BUT...SCREW IT "EL CALIFORNIANO", "SABADO GIGANTE", SHUT DOWN EAST L.A., ELIMINATE SECOND LANGUAGE CURRICULM FROM HIGH SCHOOLS??? OK THAT'S ENOUGH. I'LL GET BACK AT THIS TOPIC WITHIN A WEEK AS SOON AS I HAVE A DEEPER KNOWLEDGE ON THE SUBJECT. HASTA ENTONCES, EDUCEN SU MENTE. "PAZ" Comment From: Chase

I agree with that. Immigrants can do the productive thing w/out learning English. I do think it is necessary to know the language of the nation you're so desperate to join. Otherwise, it comes across as more of a takeover than a migration. I think they should all learn english but we should still push for other languages to be learned. The length of that though should end where we begin to accommodate those who just dont speak english (which does often times stall the learning process for those who already do). More late. Comment From: Chase

To the native american arguement. I have to say this: 90% (probably embellishing) of countries have been taken over by someone who runs in and steals everything. I can see the same situation easily happening were our sovereignty not respected. However, I see this all a cyclical. I claim no side of the fence on this, I merely comment. Comment From: Chase

It intrigues me and depresses me at the same time to look at these situations. One may try to find what is "right" and the only correct answer lies relative to individual life and goals. Kicking everyone out is right. Taking the land from somebody else is right. Taking land back is right. Humans are the most amusing and interesting creatures.